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July, 2010

  1. A Mormon’s View of Salvation and Jesus Christ

    July 25, 2010 by Ben Tanner

    About 13 years ago I was sitting in the living room of a man who was studying to become  presbyterian minister.  He was in divinity school and was as interested in converting me to his faith as I was to converting him to mine.  I was a full-time missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints.

    Most of our discussions centered around faith, works, and grace.  If I understand his position correctly, its very close to the evangelical idea that one needs to only have faith in Jesus Christ to be saved.  Let it be said here that his position was very well thought out and based mainly on the writings of Paul in the New Testament.

    He believed that once you except the Savior, you are saved and you simply cannot fall from grace.  In other words, you are done.  It does not matter what kind of life you lead from then on because Christ has covered you.

    That isn’t to say that my friend would condone a life of sin.  In fact, he would hope that you would try to model your life after Christ only because of the love that Jesus has shown to you by saving you.  But if you don’t live your life for Christ, He will still save you because you have faith in Him.  I asked him if he believed that a man who is “saved” and then went out and murdered people at will would still be “saved”.

    He answered yes, it doesn’t matter if he murdered he would still be saved.  Jesus Christ takes care of it all as long as you have faith.  But back to this story a little later…

    Latter-Day Saints often get painted in a dark light by our Christian friends because of our emphasis on works.  After all, didn’t Paul say:

    Eph. 2:8

    8 For by agrace are ye bsaved through cfaith; and that not of yourselves: it is the dgift of God

    And…

    Titus 3:5

    5 Not by works of arighteousness which we have done, but according to his bmercy he saved us, by the cwashing of regeneration, and drenewing of the Holy Ghost;

    I’m sure I could show many more scriptural examples.  To clarify the issue I would like to share with you now, and hopefully better than I did to my presbyterian friend of how Mormons view these scriptures and our relationship with Jesus Christ.

    Faith And Works

    Mormons often turn to the book of James to clarify the writings of Paul.  James tells us of a way we can determine if our faith is real.  Real and alive faith is always accompanied by works or action.

    James 2: 14, 17-18, 20-22, 24-26

    14 aWhat doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath bfaith, and have not works? can faith save him?
    17 Even so afaith, if it hath not bworks, is dead, being alone.
    18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my afaith by my bworks.
    20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that afaith without bworks is dead?
    21 Was not Abraham our father ajustified by works, when he had boffered Isaac his son upon the altar?
    22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by aworks was faith made bperfect?
    24 Ye see then how that by aworks a man is bjustified, and not by faith only.
    25 Likewise also was not aRahab the harlot bjustified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
    26 For as the body without the aspirit is bdead, so faith without cworks is dead also.
    Interestingly enough, the book of James has taken a beating by different Christian groups through the years because many are very confused at what seems to be a contradiction to what Paul taught.  Even Martin Luther wanted to keep this book and others  out of  the Bible.  But there really isn’t a contradiction to Paul, only a contradiction to the Evangelical interpretation of Paul.
    Simply put, James is saying that faith without works is not real faith.  Or put another way, faith without works is no longer a living faith.  If Paul says we are saved by faith, and James says that works or action are evidence of true faith, then works are an important part of the true Christian life and our individual salvation.
    True faith is evidenced in works and action.  But not just any action, true faith leads to the action of repentance.

    Being “Saved”

    What does it mean to be “Saved?”

    Latter-Day Saints have a very different view of what happens after death than creedal Christianity.  Simply put, we don’t believe in a simple “Heaven” or “Hell”.

    To a methodist, baptist, or Lutheran, the term “Saved” refers to Jesus’ power to save us from Hell.   To the Latter-day Saint, the term “Saved” can mean being saved from “Hell” but also can mean other things as well.

    For instance, we believe that because of Jesus Christ’s atonement and resurrection ALL mankind will be resurrected. (John 5: 25-29) This is regardless of how much they sinned or if they believed in Jesus or not.  You could call that a form of Salvation.  All being saved from the grave.

    We also believe that in the end there will be different glories or heavens assigned each of us depending on our (true) faith in Christ.  To the Latter-day Saint, there is only a tiny group of people called the “Sons of Perdition” that will not benefit from the great sacrifice and atonement of Jesus Christ.  These are people who commit the unpardonable sin spoken of by Jesus:

    Matt. 12: 31

    31 ¶ Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven aunto men: but the bblasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall cnot be forgiven unto men.

    These people will be cast out with the Devil and his angels.  Everyone else will in some way be “saved,” or receive a kingdom of glory.

    Having said that, most Mormons would only consider themselves “saved” if they end up in the highest kingdom which is called the Celestial Kingdom.  This is the salvation most often talked about in the scriptures.  To enter this kingdom, you must have (true) faith in Jesus Christ, repent of your sins, be baptized, receive the Holy Ghost, and endure to the end of your mortal life.

    Beyond that there is yet a last and final form of being “Saved”.  This is called “Eternal Life” or “Exaltation.”  This is the highest level within the highest kingdom or glory.  It is reserved for those who have made sacred covenants in the temple including eternal marriage and have been true and faithful to those promises made to God.  Here you live with God Himself and with all of your family relationships in tact.

    Why baptism is essential.

    There are several reasons why Baptism is essential, but I would like to touch on just one.  You see, to the evangelical, once you pray the prayer of faith you have been saved and you ever more in a state of grace.  But this contradicts what the scriptures say.  I would like to cite just one scripture to prove it:

    Galations 5:4

    4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the alaw; ye are fallen from bgrace.

    Wait! Did Paul just use the words “fallen from grace???”  Yes he did.  In context he is telling the Galations that if they go back to their faith in Moses’ Law, they are no longer under the grace of Jesus Christ.  In other words, they have lost their faith so they are fallen.

    So going back to James, we can also lose our faith, or our faith can become dormant or dead if it does not include action or works.  Simply put if our works do not provide evidence of our faith, then we do not have true faith. If we do not have true faith, then we do not have access to the Grace of Jesus Christ. If we do not have access to the grace of Jesus, then we do not have access to Heaven.

    I would submit to you that every time we undertake to sin (willfully) our faith has become dead and we need to repent in order to be restored to grace.

    The evangelical might scoff at that and say something like “so do we just jump in and out of Christ grace constantly then?”  In fact I’ll take you back to my story now.  When I tried to explain this to my presbyterian friend he gave me a scenario.  He said in effect “what if you were in a car accident and the last thought you had was a swear word?  Would you then be damned in Hell even though you had tried to live a Christ like life?”

    I believe the answer to this question is no.  And here is the reason why.

    After we show true faith, and after we repent of our sins, we enter into the covenant of Baptism.  This covenant is very similar to the covenant we make at marriage.  Just like you don’t divorce your spouse for the way they eat grape fruit God is not going to disown us for the small mistakes we make as long as we are consistently showing forth works meet for repentance.

    If we are striving to  overcome our weaknesses we will be found safely within the bounds of Christ’s grace.  Because of the baptismal covenant we have made with Jesus, we are His.  And just like in a marriage, only heavy, repeated infractions with no willingness to repent will fully break that covenant.

    Jesus is in the business of saving souls.  He knows our hearts.  He is merciful to those who love and serve Him.  As the Apostle  Elder Jeffery R. Holland  said:

    When we join The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (Through Baptism) we board the Good Ship Zion and sail with her wherever she goes until she comes into that millennial port. We stay in the boat, through squalls and stills, through storms and sunburn, because that is the only way to the promised land. This Church is the Lord’s vehicle for crucial doctrines, ordinances, covenants, and keys that are essential to exaltation, and one cannot be fully faithful to the gospel of Jesus Christ without striving to be faithful in the Church, which is its earthly institutional manifestation. To new convert and longtime member alike, we declare in the spirit of Nephi’s powerful valedictory exhortation: “Ye have entered in by the gate; … [but] now, … after ye have gotten into this strait and narrow path, I would ask if all is done? Behold, I say unto you, Nay; … press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, … and endure to the end, behold, thus … ye shall have eternal life.” 5

    Jesus said, “Without me ye can do nothing.” 6 I testify that that is God’s truth. Christ is everything to us and we are to “abide” in Him permanently, unyieldingly, steadfastly, forever. For the fruit of the gospel to blossom and bless our lives, we must be firmly attached to Him, the Savior of us all, and to this His Church, which bears His holy name. He is the vine that is our true source of strength and the only source of eternal life. In Him we not only will endure but also will prevail and triumph in this holy cause that will never fail us. May we never fail it nor fail Him I pray in the sacred and holy name of Jesus Christ, amen.

    Of this I add my witness that faith, repentance, baptism, The Holy Ghost, and endurance to the end is how we can access to the saving grace of Jesus Christ.  And when we are found within His grace, we have true salvation.

    In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

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  2. The Fruits of the Spirit

    July 18, 2010 by Ben Tanner

    In Galatians chapter 5 we read:

    Gal 5:22,23

    22 But the afruit of the bSpirit is clove, djoy, epeace, flongsuffering, ggentleness, goodness, hfaith,

    23 aMeekness, btemperance: against such there is no law.

    So when we have have the Gift of the Holy Ghost working our lives we are able to experience the above mentioned qualities as evidence of it.  These qualities become more and more a part of our own character as we listen to and obey the promptings of the Holy Ghost.

    Indeed, the Holy Ghost makes us Holy.  He leads us out of our lustful and fleshy habits and fits us for the Kingdom of the Lord.  As we continually repent of our shortcomings and have faith in Jesus’ grace, we can change and become who God would like us to become.

    The Holy Ghost makes this easier.  In fact it is impossible to do without the influence of the Holy Ghost.  We can only gain this powerful gift by having faith in Jesus Christ, repenting or our sins, being baptized (by the proper authority), and receiving this Gift by the laying on of hands of those who have the Authority to give the Gift of the Holy Ghost.   Just like those who received it in the New Testament.

    I testify that you can have this incredible Gift in your life.  The Lord wants you to have love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith and all of the other wonderful blessings of this Gift in every aspect of your life.

    I invite you to talk to missionaries so that you can get access to those who have the authority to give this Gift.
    In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

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  3. Priesthood for Mormon Men of Every Race

    July 11, 2010 by Ben Tanner


  4. The Promised Land

    July 4, 2010 by Ben Tanner

    Since it’s the 4th of July, I thought I would quote a few verses from the Book of Mormon about America, and I will leave the interpretation up to you:

    2 Nephi 1:5

    5 But, said he, notwithstanding our afflictions, we have obtained a aland of promise, a land which is bchoice above all other lands; a land which the Lord God hath ccovenanted with me should be a land for the inheritance of my seed. Yea, the Lord hath dcovenanted this land unto me, and to my children forever, and also all those who should be eled out of other countries by the hand of the Lord.

    2 Nephi 1: 9-10

    9 Wherefore, I, Lehi, have obtained a apromise, that binasmuch as those whom the Lord God shall bring out of the land of Jerusalem shall keep his commandments, they shall cprosper upon the face of this land; and they shall be kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves. And if it so be that they shall dkeep his commandments they shall be blessed upon the face of this land, and there shall be none to molest them, nor to take away the land of their einheritance; and they shall dwell safely forever.

    10 But behold, when the time cometh that they shall dwindle in aunbelief, after they have received so great blessings from the hand of the Lord—having a knowledge of the creation of the earth, and all men, knowing the great and marvelous works of the Lord from the creation of the world; having power given them to do all things by faith; having all the commandments from the beginning, and having been brought by his infinite goodness into this precious land of promise—behold, I say, if the day shall come that they will reject the Holy One of Israel, the true bMessiah, their Redeemer and their God, behold, the judgments of him that is cjust shall rest upon them.

    1 Nephi 13: 12-42

    12 And I looked and beheld a man among the Gentiles, who was separated from the seed of my brethren by the many waters; and I beheld the Spirit of God, that it came down and awrought upon the man; and he went forth upon the many waters, even unto the seed of my brethren, who were in the promised land.

    13 And it came to pass that I beheld the Spirit of God, that it wrought upon other Gentiles; and they went forth out of captivity, upon the many waters.

    14 And it came to pass that I beheld many amultitudes of the Gentiles upon the bland of promise; and I beheld the wrath of God, that it was upon the seed of my brethren; and they were cscattered before the Gentiles and were smitten.

    15 And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and aobtain the bland for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and cbeautiful, like unto my people before they were dslain.

    16 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld that the Gentiles who had gone forth out of captivity did humble themselves before the Lord; and the power of the Lord was awith them.

    17 And I beheld that their mother Gentiles were gathered together upon the waters, and upon the land also, to battle against them.

    18 And I beheld that the power of God was with them, and also that the wrath of God was upon all those that were gathered together aagainst them to battle.

    19 And I, Nephi, beheld that the Gentiles that had gone out of captivity were adelivered by the power of God out of the hands of all other nations.

    20 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld that they did prosper in the land; and I beheld a abook, and it was carried forth among them.

    21 And the angel said unto me: Knowest thou the meaning of the book?

    22 And I said unto him: I know not.

    23 And he said: Behold it proceedeth out of the mouth of a Jew. And I, Nephi, beheld it; and he said unto me: The abook that thou beholdest is a brecord of the cJews, which contains the covenants of the Lord, which he hath made unto the house of Israel; and it also containeth many of the prophecies of the holy prophets; and it is a record like unto the engravings which are upon the dplates of brass, save there are not so many; nevertheless, they contain the covenants of the Lord, which he hath made unto the house of Israel; wherefore, they are of great worth unto the Gentiles.

    24 And the angel of the Lord said unto me: Thou hast beheld that the abook proceeded forth from the mouth of a Jew; and when it proceeded forth from the mouth of a Jew it contained the fulness of the gospel of the Lord, of whom the twelve apostles bear record; and they bear record according to the truth which is in the Lamb of God.

    25 Wherefore, these things go forth from the aJews in purity unto the bGentiles, according to the truth which is in God.

    26 And after they go forth by the ahand of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, from the Jews bunto the Gentiles, thou seest the formation of that cgreat and abominable dchurch, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they have etaken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are fplain and most precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away.

    27 And all this have they done that they might pervert the right ways of the Lord, that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men.

    28 Wherefore, thou seest that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and aprecious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God.

    29 And after these plain and precious things were ataken away it goeth forth unto all the nations of the Gentiles; and after it goeth forth unto all the nations of the Gentiles, yea, even across the many waters which thou hast seen with the Gentiles which have gone forth out of captivity, thou seest—because of the many plain and precious things which have been taken out of the book, which were plain unto the understanding of the children of men, according to the plainness which is in the Lamb of God—because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel of the Lamb, an exceedingly great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them.

    30 Nevertheless, thou beholdest that the Gentiles who have gone forth out of captivity, and have been lifted up by the power of God above all other nations, upon the face of the land which is choice above all other lands, which is the land that the Lord God hath covenanted with thy father that his seed should have for the aland of their inheritance; wherefore, thou seest that the Lord God will not suffer that the Gentiles will utterly destroy the bmixture of thy cseed, which are among thy brethren.

    31 Neither will he suffer that the Gentiles shall adestroy the seed of thy brethren.

    32 Neither will the Lord God suffer that the Gentiles shall forever remain in that awful state of blindness, which thou beholdest they are in, because of the plain and most precious parts of the gospel of the Lamb which have been kept back by that aabominable church, whose formation thou hast seen.

    33 Wherefore saith the Lamb of God: I will be amerciful unto the Gentiles, unto the visiting of the remnant of the house of Israel in great judgment.

    34 And it came to pass that the angel of the Lord spake unto me, saying: Behold, saith the Lamb of God, after I have avisited the bremnant of the house of Israel—and this remnant of whom I speak is the seed of thy father—wherefore, after I have visited them in judgment, and smitten them by the hand of the Gentiles, and after the Gentiles do cstumble exceedingly, because of the most plain and precious parts of the dgospel of the Lamb which have been kept back by that abominable church, which is the mother of harlots, saith the Lamb—I will be merciful unto the eGentiles in that day, insomuch that I will fbring forth unto them, in mine own power, much of my ggospel, which shall be plain and precious, saith the Lamb.

    35 For, behold, saith the Lamb: I will manifest myself unto thy seed, that they shall write many things which I shall minister unto them, which shall be plain and precious; and after thy seed shall be destroyed, and dwindle in unbelief, and also the seed of thy brethren, behold, athese things shall be hid up, to come forth unto the Gentiles, by the gift and power of the Lamb.

    36 And in them shall be written my agospel, saith the Lamb, and my brock and my salvation.

    37 And ablessed are they who shall seek to bring forth my bZion at that day, for they shall have the cgift and the dpower of the Holy Ghost; and if they eendure unto the end they shall be flifted up at the last day, and shall be saved in the everlasting gkingdom of the Lamb; and whoso shall hpublish peace, yea, tidings of great joy, how beautiful upon the mountains shall they be.

    38 And it came to pass that I beheld the remnant of the seed of my brethren, and also the abook of the Lamb of God, which had proceeded forth from the mouth of the Jew, that it came forth from the Gentiles bunto the remnant of the seed of my brethren.

    39 And after it had come forth unto them I beheld aother bbooks, which came forth by the power of the Lamb, from the Gentiles unto them, unto the cconvincing of the Gentiles and the remnant of the seed of my brethren, and also the Jews who were scattered upon all the face of the earth, that the records of the prophets and of the twelve apostles of the Lamb are dtrue.

    40 And the angel spake unto me, saying: These alast records, which thou hast seen among the Gentiles, shall bestablish the truth of the cfirst, which are of the dtwelve apostles of the Lamb, and shall make known the plain and precious things which have been taken away from them; and shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father, and the eSavior of the world; and that all men must come unto him, or they cannot be saved.

    41 And they must come according to the words which shall be established by the mouth of the Lamb; and the words of the Lamb shall be made known in the records of thy seed, as well as in the arecords of the twelve apostles of the Lamb; wherefore they both shall be established in bone; for there is cone God and one dShepherd over all the earth.

    42 And the time cometh that he shall manifest himself unto all nations, both unto the aJews and also unto the Gentiles; and after he has manifested himself unto the Jews and also unto the Gentiles, then he shall manifest himself unto the Gentiles and also unto the Jews, and the blast shall be first, and the cfirst shall be last.