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  1. Origins…

    March 30, 2014 by Ben Tanner

    My Mother is Timpanogos. 

    Laying down her body on the jagged rocks.

    Willing to jump for love.

    The valleys and people below her are nourished.

    The orchards ripen with fruit.

    Her song is always a beautiful solo.

    She sacrifices herself so the dew will dance in spring.

    At Summer’s end, she hangs on to the snow still left over from last winter.

    She holds on to it even when others

    have forgotten that winter will come again.

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    My Father is Shiprock.

    Willing to stand on his own.

    He sails where there is no water.

    His skin darkened with Sun.

    The ship finds a way to keep moving.

    Through the vast desert basin he keeps his compass fixed on the stars.

    The rain doesn’t come often, but when it does it carves sand from his heart.

    The sand slowly makes it’s way down the San Juan river

    and passes trees planted by his ancestors.

    It passes by Hogans, Medicine men and Mormon elders trading.

    It see’s a little boy hiding next to the river dreaming of sailing far away.

     

    — Ben Tanner (for my parents Ron & Jane Tanner)

    3/30/2014

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    My mother grew up in Orem, Utah in the shadows of Mt. Timpanogos.  My father grew up in Kirtland, New Mexico not far from Shiprock.

     


  2. On Adversity…

    December 8, 2013 by Ben Tanner

    My father Ron Tanner and his Mother.

    My father Ron Tanner and his Mother.

    My Dad was born the oldest son of Stanley A. Tanner and Alcie Jeanette Wilson.  They had a very young, contentious, and fast marriage.  My Dad was born with malformation of his left arm. (dysmelia).  He grew up in the small Mormon town of Kirtland New Mexico.  It had been founded by his ancestors when they were forced off of what become the Navajo reservation.

    His father, Stan, was the oldest son of a large family of Indian traders.  This family had 9 children and because of the failed 1st marriage of Stan, his son Ron was taken in as a part of his fathers family and treated much more like a younger brother then a nephew by his Uncles and Aunt.

    His deformed arm was often hidden in photographs like the one featured in this post with his mother.  To this day if you see a photo of my dad, you’ll notice he prefers to hide his left arm.

    One might think of this as embarrasment, but there is also another way to look at it.

    Instead, if you were to see his arm in a photo, you would probably miss the real man because you might concentrate more on his arm than him.  You see my Dad is one of the most innovative, inventive, perservering, ambitious, strong, and talented people I know.

    He had to learn from an early age to compensate for his arm.  In a family of mostly boys he had to learn to fight, play ball, and work hard.  There was no time or resources to “baby” someone.

    He never let his arm get in the way.  He played sports and was a gifted athlete.  He served in leadership postitions.  His dancing skills were the first thing my Mother noticed about him.  He has served an honorable LDS mission and served in Priesthood leadership throughout his life.  Indeed he has touched countless lives with his amazing service and strong handshake.  He raised a family of 7 children and has owned and managed several businesses.  He has invented products and services, many that came from his need to find a way to do things differently.

    My brothers and I have marvelled how he used to run 12 miles every day and then at the end of his run, he would use a shovel to move a pile of dirt from one place to another and then back.  That was his workout regimen.

    He isn’t perfect.  He had a temper, but like so many things in life this might have been a blessing in disguise because it gave him fuel to push through hard times.

    The point is that no matter who you are and what challenge you face your percieved weaknesses can be made into strengths.  If you will humble yourself, the Lord can change your lemons into lemonade as it were.  My Grandmother (Nani, my Dad’s step mother) told me the other day that she is sure that before this life the Lord needed people to take on bodies, minds, and circumstances that were very difficult in order to help us all learn lessons we couldn’t otherwise learn.  She is convinced my father volunteered for this service knowing it was to be mind blowingly hard.  Of course this isn’t doctrine, but it is an interesting thought.

    Surely in the macro sense, The Plan of Salvation tests all of us the same.  But in the micro sense each of us have a unique challenge or set of challenges that are designed to either make or break us.  Our reaction to these challenges will be the difference.  We can soften and humble our hearts and have faith in Christ, or we can harden our hearts and turn away from the nourishment we so desparetely need.

    “If you take away the gift of reading, you create the gift of listening. If you bomb a city, you leave behind death and destruction. But you create a community of remote misses (people unafraid of bombing). If you take away a mother or a father, you cause suffering and despair. But one time in ten, out of that despair rises an indomitable force. You see the giant and the shepard in the Valley of Elah and your eye is drawn to the man with the sword and sheild and the glittering armor. But so much of what is beautiful and valuable in the world comes from the shepard, who has more strength and purpose than we ever imagine.” – Malcolm Gladwell “David and Goliath page 275.

    Years after the death of Andre Trocme’s son he said…
    “Even today I carry a death within myself, the death of my son, and I am like a decapitated pine. Pine trees do not regenerate their tops. They stay twisted, crippled.

    They grow in thickness, perhaps, and that is what I am doing.” – Andre Trocme.

    “Only the Master knows the depths of our trials, our pain, and our suffering. He alone offers us eternal peace in times of adversity. He alone touches our tortured souls” – Thomas S. Monson

    Ether 12:27

    27 And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.

    In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

     

     

     

     

     


  3. 5 Natural Man Tendencies That Will Make You Miserable

    September 29, 2013 by Ben Tanner

    • imagesDoctrine and Covenants 67:12

      12 Neither can any natural man abide the presence of God, neither after the carnal mind.

    • Mosiah 3:19

      19 For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.

    • 1 Corinthians 2:14

      14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

     

    1. Coveting
    You’ll never be happy if you are comparing yourself to other people.  There are so many things that people covet after.  Coveting doesn’t just lead to theft… it leads to a miserable self image where you never are content with what you have or who you are.  It’s a Natural Man disease.  Some of the happiest people in the world have little to nothing of possessions, fame, or good looks.  But they have learned to be content with what they have, and with who they are.

    2. Not Forgiving
    Another tendency of the natural man is to hold on to grudges and not forgive others.  They hold personal court daily where they are the judge and jury.  The problem is they are also very hard on themselves.  They hold onto past mistakes like a security blanket and condemn even themselves.  Most of the time, the unforgiven don’t even know they have been put on trial by the unforgiving.  The unforgiving end up hurting themselves.

    3. Not Repenting
    In the end, there isn’t away around the justice of God. It has it’s claim and even mercy cannot rob it.  The price must be paid.  Some natural man tendencies are to run away from our past mistakes.  Some people try to run so far that they imagine there is no right and wrong.  They don’t want to be held accountable so they imagine God doesn’t exist.  But they are still miserable because they still want justice.  They want everyone to do what they think is right, but don’t want to be accountable for the things they have done wrong. So, they end up being hypocrites.  Demanding justice on everyone else but themselves.  The only way out of this miserable state is to acknowledge that right and wrong and God do exist and to repent.  The act of repentance alone can’t fully satisfy the demands of justice, but a loving Savoir who died for us can.  The only escape from this misery is through Jesus Christ.

    4. Lacking Gratitude
    Being grateful is one of the most important keys to happiness.  And the antithesis is also true.  The tendency to be ungrateful will kill happiness like cold water on a hot fire.  When you look at the world on only see the evil and miserable, you will become miserable.  Your mind will become dark and jaded.  You will sink into despair.

    5.  Living in the Past
    The only value of looking at the past is to learn from it.  But if you find yourself always looking behind you and focusing on past mistakes or poor choices you will be miserable.  The only way you can change your life is to start from right now…and stay in the now.  Likewise, always pinning your hopes on some future happiness will rob you of today’s happiness.  Jesus said: “Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.” – Matthew 6:34

     

     

     

     


  4. Blessings of the Sacrament

    July 21, 2013 by Ben Tanner

    The Lord's Supperhttp://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/10/blessings-of-the-sacrament?lang=eng

    Jessica and I were asked to speak in sacrament meeting today.  Here is my talk.

     

    Good afternoon Brothers and Sisters.  It’s a privilege to have the opportunity to speak to you today.  It’s also very humbling.  Since we’ve moved in, we’ve  watched and have been so impressed with this ward.  We are so grateful to be a part of it.  It’s humbling to speak to people like you who are all so talented and accomplished.

    Thank you for the warm welcome we have received.  My talk today is based on a talk given in the October 2012 General Conference from Elder Don R. Clarke of the Seventy, in it he gives us 5 principles to help us gain the blessings of the Sacrament.

    The first principle is..

     

    I. Have a Feeling of Gratitude for the Atonement of Jesus Christ

     

    The sacrament is all about the atonement of Jesus Christ.  Many of you have come here today seeking healing in your hearts and minds.  Not just for things you may have done wrong, but for things others have done to you.  For questions unanswered, for worries and for stress.  The good news of the Gospel is the profound reality that no matter why you came, there are answers, there is healing, there is forgiveness.

    You really can leave the past behind and start new.  You can change bad habits.  You can change the very way you think.  But you cannot do any of this alone.  So our loving Father in Heaven has given you the gift and miracle you are seeking.  He has sent His son to pay the FULL price for all of your sins.  To give you the power to forgive others, to heal your hearts and minds, and to give truthful answers to all of your questions.  He has all power, and all knowledge.  He loves you deeply.  When we approach the sacrament with gratitude, we open up ourselves to the healing balm we so desperately need.

    II. Remember That We Are Renewing Baptismal Covenants

     

    What if you took another approach to the sacrament?  We are often told that when we take the sacrament worthily, it renews the covenants we made at baptism.  Do you remember the day you were baptized?  Do you remember how it felt?  If not, have you seen one of your own children or another adult baptized recently?  I remember how clean I felt.  You can feel that clean every week.  What if you approached sacrament meeting with the same excitement you did your own baptism?

    It shouldn’t be any different.  In fact, the older we get, the more we realize just how much we need the Savior in our lives, so when our covenants  are renewed, it can become an even deeper and fulfilling experience each time we partake.

    I recently had the privilege of baptising my son Eli.  My testimony of the sacred priesthood has grown as I’ve watched the change in Him since his baptism.  He is more careful now at what he say’s.  In fact we recently found out that baby #1 is going to be another boy and Eli’s first reaction to this was something to the effect of  “Oh no,  he’ll see Abe and I fight and that won’t be a good example!”  I suggested to him that maybe they could avoid the problem by not fighting at all.

    III. During the Sacrament We Can Feel Forgiven of Our Sins

     

    We are taught that we came to earth to gain bodies and to be tested to see if we would keep God’s commandments.

    However, the bodies we’ve gained are not perfect.  They are mortal and fallen because of the fall of Adam and Eve.  They come with sickness, weakness, urges, and appetites.  The eating of the bread helps us remember the body of Jesus Christ.  When I take the bread, I like to remember that because of Jesus’ death and resurrection, someday, I will have a perfect renewed body just like Him.  I will have full control over my body and mind.  It is this part of the sacrament that reminds me that we are punished for our own sins and not Adam’s transgression.  We might have to suffer in the flesh in this life, but eventually, God through His son has given us a victory over death and the fall.

    When I take the water, I remember the blood of Jesus that was spilled for us.  It is this blood that cleanses us from our own sins.  We are washed and made clean.  If we have repented and tried to keep the commandments we are promised forgiveness.  This forgiveness is not something we have to wait for.  We can claim it every time we take the sacrament.  We can know that we are worthy and if we were to die we would inherit eternal life.  So the sacrament helps us remember that the Atonement covers both our fallen mortal bodies, but also our sins.  We can know we are forgiven.

    IV. We Can Receive Inspiration for Solutions to Our Problems

     

    As I mentioned before, many come here worried about problems in our lives.  It could be a question we have about our faith.  It could be a problem with our employment.  It could be a problem in our marriage or with another family member or friend.  Whatever the problem or set of problems you’ve come here today with, know this.  You can find answers, inspiration, and even solutions through the administration of the sacrament.  I’d like to quote Elder Cooke’s talk directly:

    …we can receive inspiration for solutions to our problems during sacrament meeting. When I was a mission president in Bolivia, my wife, Mary Anne, and I had the blessing of attending a mission presidents’ seminar with President Henry B. Eyring. In that meeting he taught that there are three important ways to prepare to benefit from a meeting. We should come with our problems, humble as children ready to learn, and with the desire to help God’s children.

    As we humbly come to sacrament meeting, we can be blessed to feel impressions for solutions to our daily problems. We must come prepared, be willing to listen, and not be distracted. In the scriptures we read, “But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.”10 We can know what we should do to solve our problems.

    V. Partaking of the Sacrament Worthily Will Help Us Be Filled with the Holy Ghost

     

    The sacrament prayer says: “that they may always have his Spirit to be with them.”  The Spirit spoken of here is none other than the Holy Ghost.  We often teach that the Holy Ghost will teach us what to do, and that He will also testify of truth to us.  But we should remember that the Holy Ghost is also involved in our own sanctification.  Each time we take the Sacrament worthily, we can be filled with the Holy Ghost who purifies us and even changes us.

    • Helaman 3:35
      Nevertheless they did fast and pray oft, and did wax stronger and stronger in their humility, and firmer and firmer in the faith of Christ, unto the filling their souls with joy and consolation, yea, even to the purifying and the sanctification of their hearts, which sanctification cometh because of their yielding their hearts unto God.

    • 1st John 3:24
      And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

    Brothers and sisters, the Lord has given us the Sacrament as a great blessing.  It is administered by His authorized servants.  It is our great opportunity to prepare for it each week by breaking grateful, repentant contrite hearts, and offering up our questions, pleadings and faith to the Lord.  If we do, we will change over time.  We will become more like God.  We will be forgiven, cleansed and sanctified.  And when the time comes, we’ll be able to face our Heavenly Father with clean hands and a pure heart.

    In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.


  5. Are You A “Saved” Mormon?

    July 14, 2013 by Ben Tanner

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    I served an LDS mission in Alabama. I was often asked the question by evangelical Christians if I had been “Saved”.  At first, this question can puzzle many Mormons. We typically don’t view Salvation as a single, one moment in time event. You have to admit, the idea is appealing when our evangelical friends say you can “know for sure right now that you’re going to heaven.”

    So can Mormons know right now if they are going to heaven? The answer is an unequivocal yes. How can a Mormon know? Mormon’s believe that it is through the grace of Jesus Christ that we are saved.   We also believe that we have personal agency, and the power to make choices, both good and bad. We believe that in order to realize the blessings of the grace of Jesus, we have to be faithful to the end of our lives. Put another way, we have to repent when we sin in order to be reinstated to the grace of Jesus Christ.

    We believe that there is the possibility that people can fall from the grace of Christ. Just like the apostle Paul said “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” Paul in this instance is talking about people who believe they can be saved by the law, but none-the-less he mentioned that they are actually fallen from grace – which shows that one can fall from grace.

    Latter-day Saints would also say that when we willfully disobey God’s commandments we break the covenant of grace we made at baptism. When you are baptized, you promise to take upon yourself the name of Christ, and promise to keep His commandments. But when you break these commandments, you have broken your promise, and your covenants. This covenant can be restored and renewed through repentance and partaking of the sacrament, otherwise known as the Lord’s supper, or Eucharist.

    So when this covenant is restored each week, a Mormon knows she or he is saved.   They are what the apostle John calls “dwelling in Him.” (1st John 3:24)

    An often quoted scripture in the Book of Mormon is 2 Nephi 25:23:

    …for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.

    Later in the book of Mormon we read of the people of Ammon who say in Alma 24:11:

    11 And now behold, my brethren, since it has been all that we  could do (as we were the most lost of all mankind) to repent of all our sins and the many murders which we have committed, and to get God to take them away from our hearts, for it was all we could do to repent sufficiently before God that he would take away our stain—

    In the end all we can do is repent, renew our covenants and try again.

    Another way for a Mormon to know they are saved is even less complicated. It involves the Holy Ghost. When a person is baptized into the church, they are also given the Gift of the Holy Ghost. We are taught that the Holy Ghost doesn’t dwell in unclean tabernacles. So a great rule of thumb for any latter-day saint to know if they are saved is if they have the Spirit of The Lord with them. If you can truly say that the Spirit is with you, you can know for sure you’ve been forgiven of your sins, and you are clean. You are “dwelling in Him”. (1st John 3:24 –

    And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

    Another important thing to understand is that there is a fundamental difference in what Mormons believe when it comes to the fall of Adam and Eve. Our article of faith says “We believe that man will be punished for his own sins and not for Adam’s transgression” I don’t think many Mormons even understand the significance of this statement.

    Creedal Christianity teaches that because of the fall of Adam, everyone is born depraved and more specifically in Calvinism, we are so depraved that we are incapable of making any good choices. I think the confusion lies in the fall. Mormons would say that the fall did bring death, sickness, deformation, and weakness into the world. It did put us in a state where we could be tempted by various things. But temptation is not sin. The Lord himself was tempted in “all things.” (Hebrews 4:15)  But He didn’t give into it. Mormons believe sin is WILLFUL disobedience to God. In other words we are not accountable for the urges, and temptations we experience in this life because we have no control over them. We are however accountable for what we do have control over, and that is giving in to those temptations. Having those urges and temptations doesn’t make us depraved, for we are eternal beings Sons and Daughters of the Living God, put into imperfect bodies that are imperfect because of the fall.

    Someday, because of Christ, those bodies will be made perfect. Our test is to play the game with the cards we are dealt, and play by the rules. When we break the rules, and give in to temptation, we have a Savior who is ready to forgive and who has paid the price if we repent and renew our covenant with Him.  The trick is to stay in the covenant.  If you stay in the covenant, you have grace, if you have grace, you have heaven.

    One last point. When a Mormon is talking salvation they are talking about the Celestial Kingdom. We would consider all three kingdoms of glory a sort of salvation or Heaven. But we are most interested in the highest where our Heavenly Father dwells.

    So are you saved? Yes if you “dwelleth in Him.”


  6. I’m Going To Be A Mormon

    June 23, 2013 by Ben Tanner

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    I once heard of a man who had decided that no matter what life through at him, he was going to be a Mormon. This has stuck with me. What he was really saying is that, he would have faith in The Lord and his church. He would endure. This is hard at times. Not because the Gospel isn’t true, but rather it’s hard to be true to the commandments. Isn’t it great to know that the loving arms of the savior are always ready to forgive.

    Peter made a similar statement before The Lord was taken, beaten, and crucified, and ended up denying Him three times. But Peter was forgiven, and later made good on his promise by giving his very life for The Lord.

    I’m sure there will be times when I will fall short. But come what may, I’m going to be a Mormon. A deciple of the living Christ. A member of His church.


  7. Born Again Mormons… Alma Chapter 5

    March 17, 2013 by Ben Tanner

    statue2Do Mormons believe in being “Born Again”?  Absolutely.   We believe Jesus meant what He said in John 3:5-8.  A Mormon believes in at least four types of “Born Again” experiences:

     

    1. Your realization that God lives and your need for Jesus Christ (seeing the Kingdom of God)

    2. Baptism (being born of Water)

    3. Baptism of Fire (born of the Spirit)

    4. The continual renewal and rebirth experiences that come as we repent throughout our lives (Can you feel so now? Alma 5:26)

     

    The the Book of Mormon the Prophet Alma asks:

     

     14 And now behold, I ask of you, my brethren of the church, have ye aspiritually been bborn of God? Have ye received his image in your countenances? Have ye experienced this mighty cchange in your hearts?

     15 Do ye exercise faith in the redemption of him who acreatedyou? Do you look forward with an eye of faith, and view this mortal body raised in immortality, and this corruption braised in incorruption, to stand before God to be cjudged according to the deeds which have been done in the mortal body?

     16 I say unto you, can you imagine to yourselves that ye hear the voice of the Lord, saying unto you, in that day: Come unto me yeablessed, for behold, your works have been the works of righteousness upon the face of the earth?

     17 Or do ye aimagine to yourselves that ye can lie unto the Lord in that day, and bsay—Lord, our works have been righteous works upon the face of the earth—and that he will save you?

     18 Or otherwise, can ye imagine yourselves brought before the tribunal of God with your souls filled with guilt and remorse, having a remembrance of all your guilt, yea, a perfectaremembrance of all your wickedness, yea, a remembrance that ye have set at defiance the commandments of God?

     19 I say unto you, can ye look up to God at that day with a pure heart and clean hands? I say unto you, can you look up, having theaimage of God engraven upon your countenances?

     20 I say unto you, can ye think of being saved when you have yielded yourselves to become asubjects to the devil?

     21 I say unto you, ye will know at that day that ye cannot beasaved; for there can no man be saved except his bgarments are washed white; yea, his garments must be cpurified until they are cleansed from all stain, through the blood of him of whom it has been spoken by our fathers, who should come to redeem his people from their sins.

     

    I testify that you can be renewed.  That you can be saved through the atonement of Jesus Christ.  Faith, Repentance, Baptism, The Holy Ghost, and Endurance to the end.

     

    In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen


  8. Because I have been given much…

    November 18, 2012 by Ben Tanner

    Because I have been given much
    I too must give
    Because of thy great bounty, Lord
    Each day I live
    I shall divide my gifts from thee
    With every brother that I see
    Who has the need of help from me

    Because I have been sheltered
    Fed by thy good care
    I cannot see another’s lack
    And I not share
    My glowing fire, my loaf of bread
    My roof’s safe shelter overhead
    That he, too, may be comforted

    Because of thy life’s mission, Lord
    I too will serve
    I’ll leave the comfort of my home
    To teach thy word
    I’ll seek thy sheep who’ve gone astray
    And those who’ve never known the way
    I will make thy work my work today

    I shall give love to those in need
    I’ll show that love by word and deed
    Thus shall my thanks be thanks indeed

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  9. Latter-Day Saints and Evolution

    November 4, 2012 by Ben Tanner

    Do Mormons believe in evolution, yes, some do, but others do not. This is one of those topics that is left up to the individual. The reason? The prophets haven’t received any specific revelation on the matter.

    Yes it’s true that there are past quotes from different general authorities that are against evolution. There are also quotes for it. The official statement from the church on the matter is this:

    http://www.lds.org/ensign/2002/02/the-origin-of-man?lang=eng

    Personally, because there is no official revelation other than Adam and Eve were real people and they are and were created by God, and we are descended from them, I keep an open mind to all of the possibilities on how He did that.

    This attitude allows me to be free to explore both creation science and evolutionary science. The Doctrine and Covenants says:

    D&C 101:32-33

    32 Yea, verily I say unto you, in that day when the Lord shall come, he shall reveal all things—

    33 Things which have passed, and hidden things which no man knew, things of the earth, by which it was made, and the purpose and the end thereof—

    When it comes to science it’s important to not let yourself become dogmatic. Today’s science is tomorrow’s myth. The only way we can know for sure if something is true is through the author of truth, and until He reveals all the details of how He created the earth and all life on it, we won’t know for sure.

    At the same time, it’s not ok for us to just wait for Him to reveal these things either. Revelation doesn’t come unless we “study it out in our minds” (D&C 9:8) and pursue the truth. In this way, we qualify ourselves for answers from God.

    This is exciting. A riddle that we need to try and solve while at the same time never trusting our powers to comprehend all things without the aid of providence. We need to weigh our ideas against revelation from the scriptures and prophets, and ultimately God. Then when He sees fit, he will reveal the truth of all things to us.

    We also need to make sure we don’t discount ideas that might go against the grain of the current scientific establishment. Remember, scientists are mortal. Recently I’ve been reading up on the ideas behind intelligent design and creation science. I’ve been fascinated. Usually these people are written off as “Flat Earthers” and many straw man arguments are used to try and dissuade people from actually looking into what they have to say.

    In reality, they have some very good science backing up their ideas. In fact after reading some really interesting info on www.creation.mobi I think evolutionists have some very hard questions to answer if they want to stay relevent to me.

    But I won’t let myself completely settle on the final answer until God reveals it. Until then, I’ll study it and enjoy exploring all kinds of ideas. This is liberating because it really doesn’t matter what the latest arguments are on either side of the debate, they don’t negatively impact my testimony of Jesus Christ.

    I believe that God is really the source of all truth. I know that someday, all of our questions will be answered if we are diligent in keeping His commandments and pursuing those answers.

    In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.


  10. Leaving your nets…

    October 14, 2012 by Ben Tanner

    President Hollands conference talk really hit me hard. If you missed it, here it is:

    http://www.lds.org/prophets-and-apostles/unto-all-the-world/the-first-great-commandment?lang=eng